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An Interview with Carol Nacy, Founder and CEO, Sequella, Inc.
December 6, 2005
Nacy, 57, founded Sequella, a Rockville biotech company that’s working on a cure for tuberculosis, in 1997. She was a top executive and scientist at EntreMed Inc., for three years and saw the company go public in 1996. She’s also worked as a scientist for the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research. After living in 17 places as the child of an Army engineer, she landed in Washington in 1966 to attend Catholic University.
Bisnow on Business: Were you interested in science as a kid?
I got into science as a consequence of my mother thinking
she needed a doctor in the family. I was the oldest girl and the
oldest child.
I took on her agenda and thought I would go to medical school. I
signed up for pre-med. But I found out that I didn’t like anything
that I was studying that would have to be repeated in medical school.
Then I landed on microbiology and that just turned me on completely.
I ended up not going to medical school but going back to graduate
school to study more about microbiology and immunology.
Did anyone
in your family have a science background?
My father was an engineer
for the Army. He had gone to West Point and then got a master’s
in engineering from the University of Pennsylvania. I’m very
good at math so we used to play math games when he was in Vietnam.
We would take a problem that was really
difficult and he would solve it his way and I would solve it my
way when I was in high school. I never wrote him a letter but solved
math problems with him. It probably kept him amused while he was
there and certainly kept me on my toes.
Did you envision
yourself leading a biotech company?
I worked for 18 years for the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research
as a scientist moving through the ranks. I never worked for money
and that’s important for entrepreneurs. My motivation for
going to work everyday was not because I was getting a salary,
but because
my work was exciting. On the other hand, my salary was consistent
because it was government. I didn’t envision myself as
a head of a company any more than as a leader within the government.
I was
given the opportunity to leave Walter Reed and come to a startup
biotech company, EntreMed.
You were an
executive with EntreMed for three years. What made you go out
on your own and launch Sequella?
I had been allowed as a part of my growth within EntreMed to
sit at the table with the chair of the board, who had put together
a number of biotech companies and had taken them public. He
let me
sit in and learn as we were developing EntreMed. One of the
things entrepreneurs need as a personality trait is the inability
to
see
the problems and instead the ability to see the opportunities.
When I was at EntreMed, I saw what it was to be able to develop
a company
with a specific focus that you were very interested in. When
I discovered tuberculosis, it became very clear that what would
be
exciting is
to develop a company focused on new products for TB, which
melded my microbiology, infectious disease, and immunology
background
with biotech. You have to think you can do it. I don’t think anybody
recognizes the difficulty of the problems until they’ve already
solved the problem. They look back and say, “I had no idea
it was going to be that hard.” If what drives you is solving
problems and getting to the next step, then being an entrepreneur
is fun. If you’re looking for financial security or security
at all, it will just be painful.
Why focus on tuberculosis?
In 1996, the NIH had been ramping up funding on tuberculosis from
about $5 million to $30 million over that previous five years.
There had been a mini-epidemic in New York and San Francisco and
in other urban areas where a fair amount of tuberculosis was being
transmitted that was a surprise to the public health community.
In response to that, the government began refocusing its attention
on TB. The NIH had been ramping up its granting program in an effort
to get people involved in thinking about TB and they came to the
end of a five year program. They wanted a review of the previous
five years and they wanted to set the goals for the next five years.
At that point, I had been at EntreMed and out of academia for about
three years, which really is not enough time for people to recognize
you’ve made that shift out of academia. NIH asked me to come
back and be the immunologist on the review board. Until that point
I thought we had cured TB. Then I got there and saw the statistics
and I was completely floored. Two billion people in the world infected
with TB. That’s one out of every three. The number one killer
of women of child-bearing age. Who knew that? Ten million new cases
and two to three million deaths per year. Those were extraordinary
statistics to me. I figured if I did not know this, being an infectious
disease immunologist in the United States, then most people don’t
know. That’s why there was no attention being paid to TB
in this country. I had both the experience and the interest in
the infectious disease aspect, and yet the entrepreneurial lack
of understanding of the difficulty of the problem, associated with
starting a new company.
Is TB a problem here?
It’s always a problem in the United States because we have
open borders for travel. Twenty-five percent of tuberculosis resides
in India. There are 2,000 people de-planing from India every day
in New York. We constantly import people who have TB, that have
latent tuberculosis and many of those people become our citizens.
There’s
an undercurrent of tuberculosis which we simply won’t get
rid of in this country until we solve the TB problem outside our
borders.
We do have transmission of tuberculosis within our borders as a
natural consequence of people who reactivate their TB sometime
during their
lifetime. There are 10 countries which have really huge TB burdens.
The United States is not one of them. But we have a constant burden
that just doesn’t go away because we constantly import TB.
What
are the biggest misconceptions about the biotech industry?
The biggest misconception is that a very exciting new idea is going
to translate into something that can be used by humans in a short
amount of time. I remember how sad and upset I was at EntreMed
when the New York Times reported in May 1998 that angiogenesis
technology
was going to cure cancer. The next Monday, we had lines of people
with macular degeneration and various cancers lined up to get us
to give them something that would help them. In the meantime all
of this was predicated on a mouse study. There was no product to
offer them. It was so disturbing to see people who really needed
something today and it wasn’t going to happen for 10-15 years.
The other misconception is that there’s a lot of money out
there for startup biotech companies. Right after the dot com bust,
everybody pulled their money back. There’s a lot of money
out there waiting to be deployed, but the financial industry itself
has
become very risk adverse.
What is the biggest challenge of running
a biotech company?
To keep enough funding on hand to pay for the very expensive clinical
trials that are required for registration of products in humans.
Finding that money is just so difficult because a single phase
3 clinical trial for a drug is $25 million to $50 million. To find
that kind of money is very difficult for a small biotech company.
You have to make decisions about what kind of company you are.
You
can’t make it assuming you’re going to be able to get
your products all the way through from start to finish. Many biotechs
unwisely spend their money. That’s a shame because it causes
anxiety in the financial community for funding other companies.
How
do you balance your role as a scientist and a business person?
Balance is something no entrepreneur knows how to do. Everything
is done at 100 percent. I’m fortunate that I have very good
scientists that work with me. I like to review the science and
help write the papers and keep current. That’s the pleasure
part of my life. But I really enjoy the business as well. The raising
of money is stressful but I relieve some of the stress by thinking
about the science at the same time. If you have your mind focused,
you can do both. You don’t have to do them sequentially.
You can do them simultaneously; it just takes a little bit of practice.
What
is your reaction when people recognize you or pay tribute to you
because you are a female entrepreneur?
I was not raised to think of myself as a woman scientist. I always
thought of myself as a scientist with indoor plumbing. I don’t
see myself as a female followed by “scientist” or female
followed by “business person.” I see myself as someone
building a business. That does not mean that’s how the world
sees me. I’m of that generation where the year before me
in college, women were expected to get married and to have children
and then perhaps go back, finish their education and have a career.
The women after my group were expected to have careers. We expected
to have careers but everybody who was in positions of power thought
we should be doing otherwise. In my particular generation, there’s
a lot of scrambling for the top because there’s not that
many of us that were in positions and positions were few and far
between.
To be selected in a group of other successful women by people who
include women who are successful is very honorific for me. We’ve
made it to that level where we no longer have to feel as though
everybody is in competition with us. We can turn around and pat
the backs of
people who are equally successful. On the other hand, my male vice
presidents and officers of the company always give me a hard time
about things like Women in Bio. They want to start a Men in Bio
club. I do get a little bit of grief from them.
In what ways are
you treated differently in the business world because you’re
a woman?
In our business there are 4,600 biotech companies. Less than 100
are led by women. We’re in a huge minority. There have been
many occasions where people have assumed that I’m the secretary
of the guy standing next to me, only to discover later that I’m
the CEO. I don’t take offense to that. I’m old enough
that that’s very commonplace. There is a tendency to assume
that I will be more emotional. There is a tendency to assume that
perhaps I’m a kinder, gentler person and that’s not
true at all. Women tend to make harder decisions than many men
can. We’re
much more practical about the decision-making process.
[This interview conducted by Tania Anderson for Bisnow on Business.]
